Vance came in at 4 weeks old with his brother and sister. We were told they are Ridgeback cross Shepherds and maybe that was what Mum was. Dad however must have short legs and is a dark brindle may have been an English Staffy or something similar. It would be interesting to do a DNA on them. They are typical naughty active playful pups that are responding well to training. They are crate trained as they sleep in the house in crates at night during the day they are outside playing.